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Dutch populist wants Koran banned

Amsterdam, Capital of The Netherlands

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The populist politician Geert Wilders is calling for a ban on the Koran. In a letter published in the national newspaper Volkskrant, the leader of the far-right Party for Freedom(PVV) compares the Koran with Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf and urges the book be outlawed, both in public and for private use. In his letter, Mr Wilders, whose party has nine of parliament's 150 seats, hints he will put forward a motion requesting such a ban. The politician only wants to allow the Koran to be used for scientific research. Mr Wilder's letter comes a day after an Iranian-born local Labour-politician who heads a committee for secular Muslims was given police protection after being attacked for a third time in a few months.

The Volkskrant puts Wilders' call for a ban on the Koran on its front page but in its editorial column it suggests that PVV leader has gone too far and questions whether he can still be taken seriously.

The paper says Wilders' call to ban the Koran from mosques would take away the right of a million Dutch Muslims to freely practice their religion. This contravenes the Dutch constitution and would reduce Muslims to second-class citizens – something that goes against the grain of the Christian-humanist traditions on which Wilders' bases his call, the paper adds.

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{"commentId":931017,"authorDomain":"handshake"}

Good article! Geert Wilders has gone beyond the reasonable. Of course he's free to say what he wants, but he cannot expect to be taken seriously. He says he wants to ban the Quran in order to send a signal to extremist muslims. But his actual signal goes to all muslims and it's clear: 'you are inferior'.

Just, are you Dutch?

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Reply#1 - Wed Aug 8, 2007 6:58 AM EDT
{"commentId":931445,"authorDomain":"integraldynamics"}
Of course he's free to say what he wants

But why would the Volkskrant, a serious paper, put it on the front page?

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    #1.1 - Wed Aug 8, 2007 10:58 AM EDT
    {"commentId":931490,"authorDomain":"handshake"}

    Because Wilders has a large political party, and because there is a heated debate about Islam in the Netherlands right now.

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      #1.2 - Wed Aug 8, 2007 11:09 AM EDT
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      {"commentId":931296,"authorDomain":"rhodezone"}

      Although I doubt that Dutch society would benefit in any way by banning any religious text, this does test the limits of religious tolerance, and it's an important conversation to have. I mean, do you think that Saudi Arabia is any better off for not allowing Bibles into their country?

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      Reply#2 - Wed Aug 8, 2007 10:01 AM EDT
      {"commentId":931304,"authorDomain":"handshake"}

      No, Saudi Arabia is not any better off and I do not think the Netherlands should imitate that country.

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      #2.1 - Wed Aug 8, 2007 10:04 AM EDT
      {"commentId":931561,"authorDomain":"rhodezone"}

      Exactly. Legislating away ideology is nonsense, a free and innovative society is predicated on engagement with those with other ideas and beliefs, and The Netherlands has and will continue to benefit as a result, despite the bumps they have endured along the way (van Gogh, Fortuyn, Verdonk).

      In the case of the Saudis, their oil wealth has put societal questions on the back burner, but religious tourism isn't going to cut it once the wells run dry.

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        #2.2 - Wed Aug 8, 2007 11:27 AM EDT
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        {"commentId":931438,"authorDomain":"integraldynamics"}

        From an item of Radio Netherlands (link)

        Geert Wilders says he wants his proposal to serve as a warning to radical Muslims who misuse the Koran to justify the use of violence.

        I wonder whether the intended audience, the radical Muslims, will heed the warning and refrain from radicalism or whether they will be encouraged to radicalize even more.

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          Reply#3 - Wed Aug 8, 2007 10:56 AM EDT
          {"commentId":931461,"authorDomain":"integraldynamics"}

          Suggestion for Just.

          To add the tag 'eurabia' to your article.

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            Reply#4 - Wed Aug 8, 2007 11:01 AM EDT
            {"commentId":932963,"authorDomain":"zaki"}

            banning is not the right thing to do.

            It sure would be nice to be able to ask people to send it their own "edited" versions of the Holy Book, such as the things they like about it and what they dislike.

            Sadly when you try to implement that in developing or very islamic countries, you get killed.

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              Reply#5 - Wed Aug 8, 2007 7:11 PM EDT
              {"commentId":933027,"authorDomain":"darryl-west"}
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              {"commentId":939005,"authorDomain":"nodhimmi"}

              Wilders is right. The Koran clearly constitutes "hate speech," and we know what European nations can do to those convicted of "hate speech."

              Check out this frightening site:

              The Truth About Islam

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                Reply#7 - Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:43 AM EDT
                {"commentId":1511076,"authorDomain":"bargrum"}

                In this case I think mohamed bouyeri stole the Koran and twisted it into his own war. Terrorists know just enough about brainwashing and mutual hypnotism to commit selective murder.

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                  Reply#8 - Tue Feb 26, 2008 2:55 PM EST
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